Welcome to the best part of your life.
If you live is SoCal (U.S.), I will treat you and your wife to dinner. I won't bring my wife though. She is still in, unfortunately. I can bring my son. He's never been in and never will.
my wife and i just found out that our disassociation was announced last night.
we....are...free!.
i'd like to take a moment to thank some people:.
Welcome to the best part of your life.
If you live is SoCal (U.S.), I will treat you and your wife to dinner. I won't bring my wife though. She is still in, unfortunately. I can bring my son. He's never been in and never will.
do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.
do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.
well, here i am.. hello world, mrs. eden sending regards to everyone.
:).
my english is limited, so please go easy on me.. mrs. eden.
this letter was sent to all congregations in ecuador (south america).. the translation into english of the letter:.
to body ofelders.
subject: publisher who did not report field service time in the second semester of service year.. dear brothers:.
mrs. eden is laying here by my side reading the forum latest posts with me and asked me to send you all her warmest regards.
more to follow soon.... .
eden
Hello Mrs. Eden,
You have a great husband, and great husbands always make the right choices, especially when it comes to partners for life.
Glad you are joining the forces of "darkness". I hope my daughter does it too. She needs time, but I am confident that her developing of critical thinking skills through college classes will open new and better horizons in her life.
ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
Vinman wrote:
"Personally, I would never express or imply to an atheist or any non-Christian religious person, that they are delusional, lack critical thinking skills, etc."
You seem to imply that being delusional can apply either way, atheist or theist. Non sense. The more educated you are, the greater your critical thinking skills and the better the chance of your being non religious. The opposite is for the less educated. Religiosity and education run in opposite directions. Atheists quite frequently hold their position because they refuse to believe in things that can't be proven, therefore the term delusional is inappropriate. On the other hand, religious people, by definition, believe or have faith in the invisible, therefore they run a greater risk of being delusional.
Yes, Ray Franz was closer to being delusional than Bertrand Russell, but he was far from being an idiot. In the end, who gives a rip about being an atheist or theist. What matters is your humanity, of which Ray Franz had much more than most atheist and theists in the world.
thanks to the great "watchtower history" blog with historical information about the pre- and early bible students years, i became today aware of the origine of the name the watchtower and the masthead illustration in front of the old magazines.. in c.t.
russell's younger days, his mother and other relatives died and were buried on the family plot at the allegheny cemetery.. it must have been a defining moment voor the young ctr.
look at his inspiration to choose the name and masthead of his magazine.
i have being thinking quite a while before posting.
actually i haven't post for quite a long in the forum and i guess i'm one of the old ones, since i became member since 2001.. after leaving the borg for almost 16 years and disfellowshiped 10 years ago.
you can see my relevant post:.
Welcome back justhuman.
Why don't you send your experience to the Australian Royal Commission so they can confirm how bad this organization is.
Regarding what to do. I could only speak for myself if I were in your situation: "THE HELL WITH THEM ALL!". But you do what you think is best for you.
ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.
i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?
in search of christian freedom?
I'd take Ray Franz as a friend for his integrity and compassion, even as a mentor in many issues, a lot faster than vinman.
Vinman, being an atheist doesn't make you wise, or good, or educated. Ray Franz was far better human than you are. And his beliefs in Israelite/Jewish/Christian myths has no relevance in assessing his humanity, which was far greater than most people's.
early this morning, i was stopped at a service station dealing with a mechanical issue with my motorcycle.
i was approached by 2 young men who pro-offered some of your reading material.
i deeply regret that i was very unkind; in actual fact, i was quite mean in my response to them.